Richard Marks Gets Headline
Looks like blogspot isn't the only thing that goes down. I wanted to link to a Times- Standard article- the top of the front page headline: Everybody Loves Richard- but I can't, the T-S web site is down, at least for now.
Anyway, the article goes on to talk about the Marks voters being the wild card in the runoff between Bonnie Neely and Nancy Flemming. True, but as the article says, Flemming's got her work cut out for her if she wants to get Mark's endorsement as her vote totals where quite a bit lower than Neely's.
Marks says he'll be making an endorsement soon. I don't think it will be any surprise who the endorsement ends up going to.
I think you should hold off for a while, Richard, and suck as much out of this as you can. This should be good for at least a few good meals from each of them, and think of all the parties you'll get invited to in the meantime.
Hey, this is more than just fifteen minutes of fame. It doesn't get any better than this. Drag the endorsement process out as long as you can.
posted by Fred Mangels @ 8:50 AM
51 comments
51 Comments:
Richard ran a great campaign considering how late he came into the race. He has earned the respect of this dem. Now that the election is over, Richard - get into the boat and start paddling. We have a long way to go. You know a vote for Flemming is a vote for an Arkley Coastal Commissioner. Neely (again) for Supervisor!
the dems certainly don't deserve respect after they crapped all over richard's efforts. i look forward to any trouble he can make for those loco solutions control freaks.
and don't let neely off the hook, make her sweat, don't make it easy. make neely promise support for a county minimum wage, better public transit, police review for sheriffs, instant runoff voting and a donation cap. time to extract something while you have the leverage richard, your supporters deserve this.
don't deserve respect after they crapped all over richard's efforts. i look forward to any trouble he can make for those loco solutions control freaks.
and don't let neely off the hook, make her sweat, don't make it easy. make neely promise support for a county minimum wage, better public transit, police review for sheriffs, instant runoff voting and a donation cap. time to extract something while you have the leverage richard, your supporters deserve this.
(sigh) anon 10:35/36 ya just don't get it. Richard came in extremely late. Besides what do you want - Flemming for Supervisor. Get the point. Oh - that's the point - you don't get the point. okay.
thanks chris, but i get the point. i just won't follow it. neely should be held accountable.
politicians held accountable? That's MADDNESS! ABSOLUTE MADDNESS!
My how the worm has turned.
With new friend like these, watch your back, Bonnie
Remember this?
"1. Not too late to derail Neely appointment
Neely is all out for this appointment, balls to the wall.
Neely's star sinking. Let's help it.
Tie Neely to Recall. Keep her losing."
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CC: aeb_humboldt@topica.com
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Subject: Re: FW: Coastal Commission Appointment
Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2004 17:57:26 -0800
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ABSOLUTELY!
At 9:39 AM -0800 3/6/04, Michael Shellenberger wrote:
>-----
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>------ Forwarded Message
>From: Richard Salzman < salzman@inreach.com >
>Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2004 18:55:23 -0800
>To: Michael Twombly < twomblym@cwo.com >
>Cc: Richard Salzman < salzman@inreach.com >, Nancie Four Waters
>< rootwaters@asis.com >, Donald Forrest < DM4Rest@aol.com >, Michael
Evanson
>< evenson@igc.org >, Michael Shellenberger
< michael@thebreakthrough.org >,
>Julie Francis < Juliefrancis@earthlink.net >
>Subject: Re: Coastal Commission Appointment
>
>The original meetings for the recall were held at Bonnie's house. She
>was the driving force from day one. Bring her down now.
>
>On Friday, March 5, 2004, at 03:10 PM, Michael Twombly wrote:
>
>> Sacramento Insider Poop: Confidential
>>
>> 1. Not too late to derail Neely appointment
>>
>> Neely is all out for this appointment, balls to the
wall.
>> Her support with Gov. Arnold comes from Tracy Walsh (wife of Danny
>> Walsh and Maria S. chief of staff) and from Red Emerson (big $$$ to
>> Arnold). Other than that, no support for Bonnie with Arnold.
>>
>> 2. DA Recall could play BIG in Coastal Commission appointment
>> (John W. A WINNER, Bonnie a loser.)
>>
>> Gov's office is laughing over Maxxam/PL's stupidity and
>> big loss; Flanigans are a joke; Obviously Reeps and Demos voted
>> against Neely and the recall. Neely's star sinking. Let's help it.
Tie
>> Neely to Recall. Keep her losing.
>>
>> 3. Letter writing campaign to Arnold is the way to go, with
>> letters to Editor, and groups coming forward like fisherman,
>> birdwatchers, Audubon society, Reeps for Ethical Business, etc.
This
>> can be won now, if we use the momentum of the recall against Neely
and
>> for John.
>>
>> 4. What does John say? Shall we go for it?
>>
>> 5. Everyone who voted for Recall would support John over
Bonnie.
>> Yes?
>>
>> M
>>
>>
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>>
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Gawd, one might think you foaming right-wingers might shut up for a couple of days after getting your clock cleaned at the polls Tuesday. One would be wrong.
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Doesn't look to "local" to me.
i didnt know richard marks was a foaming rightwinger. there is opposition to loco solutions from the left in case you missed it.
what's rightwinger about pointing out that the worm has turned?
bonnie is now one with those who were plotting her demise? twombly, sleazman and loco solutions
does she want her job that bad that she'll seek support from those who profess on kmud that they are holding their nose to vote for her?
you know you've been there too long when...
"I think Nancy Fleming's artwork is ugly"
I thought that too, absolutely grotesque...then I realized I was looking in a mirror.
10:53 said: Richard came in extremely late.
I filed my paperwork timely. I asked one labor leader (Bob Borck of the Carpenters) to sign my petition to be put on the ballot! Patrick Riggs was one of the first I e-mailed. Local Solutions knew my intentions to run before I finalized my paperwork. They chose to ignore me. Instead of informing me of my situation, they decided to destroy my campaign with rumors and disinformation. It worked. They had made their alliance with Bonnie Neely well in advance.
My bad. I thought everyone had the right to run for public office. If another Democratic candidate were running, I would not have stepped forward. I had no idea that the Humboldt County Democratic Central Committee that I had once been a member (96'-99') had become a exclusive political action committee. It is all disappointing to me, a pro-union, pro labor (32year union member), successful union organizer, progressive democrat, youth volunteer, adult sports director and life long resident of the north coast would be villified by fellow Democrats. It starts local people.
I was raised by a Democratic single parent mother who raised us on union dollars as a retail clerk at the old Bazar store. My Male role models in Myrtletown were die hard Democrats and I carried their beliefs when I registered as a Democrat in 1975. I am sure they are all ashamed at what has happened to our local democratic party.
Oh well. Enough with the whinning. It is softball season! So I have an outlet. Oh yes, and your blog Fred. Thanks for the forum.
Richard Marks
Richard Marks
Local solutions was revealed for what they were - nothing more than a funding mechanism for Gallegos. That is why the name was created and the farcical charade was enacted during the last election. The pretense was necessary to get people to give them money.
Anyone who gave those charlatans money thinking it was going to help other candidates was defrauded of their money, used in the worst way.
Neely has perceived that the political wind is in the extremist camp and she has thrown herself in with them.
Richard, you have called it like it is.
Is Neely thinking of a higher office? And if so, will she switch parties?
the dems certainly don't deserve respect after they crapped all over richard's efforts. i look forward to any trouble he can make for those loco solutions control freaks.
and don't let neely off the hook, make her sweat, don't make it easy. make neely promise support for a county minimum wage, better public transit, police review for sheriffs, instant runoff voting and a donation cap. time to extract something while you have the leverage richard, your supporters deserve this.
a good list. maybe the wrong target. marks should shop his issues to fleming. if he can get her to sign in blood her pledge to vote on even half of the ideas then marks should throw the election to her. i trust a conservative to keep a contract more than a neoliberal who cant/wont sign on in the first place. same problem with chris kerrigan. didnt promise to do anything concrete. its easier to meet low expectations.
Marks is right on the money about loco solutions, their newsletter last summer touted bonnie as an organizer of theirs. She's been working with Salzman.
Delirium.
ya think?
Just for the record: I can't stand Loco Solutions. They are more about power and personal relationships than genuine progressive politics. I've learned that from trying to work with them.
Richard was a good candidate. Fairly left-wing, but also respected by working-class conservatives.
I recently endorsed Neely because I really don't like Flemming/Arkley. But I will never forgive a lot of the people who turned on Richard during the primary.
He could have beaten Bonnie in a runoff. I hope Riggs realizes that.
Somebody should recruit Richard's better half, I believe her name is Robin, to run a write-in campaign, if she had a balanced platform she could walk a winner.
she would have had to get into the race as an official write-in before now. It's a race between two candidates. Write-in votes - no matter how many - will be disregarded.
Maybe she should run next time.
Shane, it's time to grow up. Richard Marks would not have beaten Bonnie Neely in a runoff. You did a great job, so stop whining. Get back in the boat and start winning. We hope to see you back at HCDCC where as you know our business IS done in public. We hope to see Richard back, too, along with Pat Higgins, another democrat who did not receive HCDCC's endorsement even though he is a full active member. Attend Chicken by the Sea or this week's HCDCC meeting and let's make peace and take our country back.
---an HCDCC Supporter
PS - You right-wingers who are trying to encourage division amongst us patriots will not succeed. Your Mr. Bush has screwed it up, so crawl back in your holes for a few years while we try to straighten out the mess.
---would rather be gardening.
REMINDER: HCDCC made NO endorsement in either supervisorial race this year. A great many democrats did, however, endorse Bonnie Neely personally, including Congressman Mike Thompson, Senator Wes Chesbro, Assemblymember Patty Berg and others. We don't want Arkley running our town and we don't want
Bush running our country.
we are opposed to loco solutions and their control schemes over both democrat and green central committees. and we are not rightwingers so take your tar and feathers elsewhere.
If you like Arkley's politics or support him in any manner, you also support the vicious right-wing politicians he continually, massively, buys. How do you think he got Arnold up here? MONEY.
it's ludicrous. you guys support Gallegos who is arkley's boy, he got $17,000 from Arkley. Don't want A-r-k-l-e-y?
hypocrites.
hypocrites.
hypocrites.
hypocrites.
losers.
losers.
losers.
losers.
11:03 wrote: "you also support the vicious right-wing politicians he continually, massively, buys. How do you think he got Arnold up here?".
You consider Schwarzenegger a "vicious right- wing politician"? Boy, that's bit over the top.
Revisit the terminators failed initiatives. "Slash and Burn" tactics. Maybe "vicious" is a bit much for Arnold. Certainly not for Bush and Cheney, and that means Arkley, and Flemming, and the other wealthy extremists who wish to run Humboldt County for their own private benefit. Does that clarify the situation for you?
"Shane, it's time to grow up. Richard Marks would not have beaten Bonnie Neely in a runoff. You did a great job, so stop whining."
I am not a child. Older people who resort to statements like "grow up" are simply relying on my youth to try and diminish the points that I make.
I've endorsed Bonnie, that should be enough for you. If I want to keep whining I will.
12:21 wrote:"Does that clarify the situation for you?."
Gee, I guess so.
it's a lost cause Fred. these people are so consumed by hatred, they have lost all rational thought. anyone successful is vicious right wing, anyone with any values is an extremist right winger. if you don't march in lockstep with them you are to be hated.
what happens when Bush is out of office? Will they return to normal human status? I for one don't think so, and I don't intend to just forget what they have become. It is too bizarre.
shane,
the truth is Richard had a pretty decent platform- that was all it was- decent.
the truth is with Neely($) and Flemming($) he needed a better platform.
Now if Robin (Mark's better half) would have ran, against all three of them mind you, she would have won straight up- no november run-off.
Shane- Mark's platform was just okay. Why should local solutions crawl out on a limb for something just okay.
Your platform was damn good- and you reached out to Greens. Local Solutions blew that one.
P.S. Mresquan, Mark's platform was just okay damnit. Have I ever seen HVA put their ass out on a limb. No.
Marks should have got Chris Crawford to run his campaign.
He would have lost worse than he did with Shane for sure, but Flemming would be out to.
Come to think of it if Chris Crawford ran every local republican campaign Eureka would never have to even bother with Instant Run-off Voting!
If Shane had been given the resources he requested for the campaign, I feel we would be in a runoff. Unfortunately we came up short and I nixed some campaign platform issues that Shane wanted trumped. For what it is worth, Shane did a brilliant job with what he had to work with, and I may have made some wrong decisions late in the game. Shane is not a child in any way but age. He is a natural born leader and very well spoken. It was an honor to have worked with him, even when we disagreed. If you ever meet Shane, the man in person, talk with him and you will discover a wealth of information well beyond his years.
Richard Marks
Don't pretend local solutions was even interested, they aren't even real, they didn't even go through their sham interviews and come out with their phony baloney endorsements. Their job is done, at least until Salzman pushes restart on their buttons, and reactivates the drones. Geez, have a little honesty at least.
Democrats for Neely!
the democrats done't have any resources to give you Mr. Marks. they don't help their own, which should be the purpose of a central committee, it should be a support group for any dem who chooses to run the gauntlet.
instead they were actively working against you, and they continue to do so, posting here.
why?
7:36 seems to be trying to stir up a little animosity between democrats. Richard Marks is too smart to buy into that tactic.
7:36 They eat their own. Sad.
7:36 doesn't need to stir up any animosity between democrats. Riggs took care of that. And Marks sees it quite clearly. He is not stupid.
all that is required for bad things to happen is for good people to sit by silently, which is what is happening to the democratic party, the arcata city council and the da's office
there already is animosity among both democrats and greens against the loco solutions control freaks taking over their central committees. what do you think gdi and pda are for if not for progressives in both parties to start organizing their ways out of their respective messes.
gdi and pda?
Greens for Democracy and Independence
http://www.greens4democracy.net/
Progressive Democrats of America
http://www.pdamerica.org
oh great. new groups.
Yeah - the dems eat their own. I have watched it in the last 4 years and have re-registered because of it. Riggs and his cronies have ruined my party. What they did to Marks was disgusting. They made their deal to support Neely no matter what with Salzman the month before the meeting that they gave Marks the token three minutes to speak to them. Hey - Riggs - the gig is up and you are exposed.
Richard - leave the party and become a non-partisan like me and my wife. It is much more honorable than tolerating their garbage.
Richard did not leave the party, the party left him. Maybe he will become a Republican. They just ignored him.
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