Monday, April 16, 2007

Eureka Mulls Traffic Problems

Looks like some on the Eureka City Council are considering forming yet another committee- a Transportation Management Committee. This one will deal with traffic problems in Eureka. I have to wonder if Eureka has traffic problems unique to itself or do we have the same problems every other town does?

No mention of any specific cures for any problems but I'm sure planting trees along the streets will be one suggestion, as always. They claim trees alongside streets slow drivers down. They probably do, since they limit driver's visibility. Not sure I like the trade off.

I suppose my own pet peeves regarding traffic are just like most everyone elses:

I certainly don't like people racing down the street as fast as they think they can get away with.

The thing that sticks in my mind probably more than anything else, though, are pedestrian vs. vehicle conflicts. I know I'm not the only one and, just by chance, a letter to the editor today in the Eureka Reporter takes the words right out of my mouth. Well said, Trish Palmer. You beat me to the punch.

First, you have the problem of pedestrians who only look once, if they look at all, before crossing the street. I see that all over town. Henderson Center's usually a good place to see that happen. Not a good way to walk.

Then, as Trish mentions, you have the drivers that want to be nice and stop for someone standing at a crosswalk. No one else stops, thus creating a dangerous situation.

I saw that happen the other day on H Street in Eureka. Driver in the right lane stops for three adult males waiting at the crosswalk. Nobody in the two lanes to the left stops. If the three guys would have been like so many other people crossing streets in Eureka, they wouldn't have looked and might have gotten hit by the cars that didn't stop.

As it was, they were attentive and waited for the cars to pass before crossing the street, something they could well have done without the nice driver stopping to let them cross.

Ms. Palmer also mentions the accident that occured when a similar nice driver stopped for a pedestrian causing a rear end collision. I believe there were more than two vehicles involved in that one. A nice driver stops for a pedestrian. Another driver, not noticing or expecting the nice driver to stop, ends up slamming into nice driver from behind.

Well, at least she was being nice.

Nice drivers can pat themselves on the back for being nice but, as far as I'm concerned, they should let the pedestrians find their own way across the street, not create a potentially dangerous situation for everyone involved by stopping at the crosswalk.

When I cross the street, I don't want cars to stop for me. I wait for an opening and then go. It's safer for everyone that way.

I don't know how a Transportation Management Committee could address the problem of pedestrain vs. vehicle conflicts.


19 Comments:

At 8:59 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

The pedestrian problem is even worse in a Arcata. They NEVER look. I do think a walk around town can be fun and gives a different perspective of the community. Rather than just simply zooming by.

The problem, however, I think is more with the people than the policy. Most people are complete dolts, and frankly deserve to be ran over. :)

 
At 9:17 AM, Blogger Fred Mangels said...

You said it. I didn't. :-)

 
At 1:59 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Fred, every once and a while you post something really irritating. This is one of thoes times.

 
At 2:44 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

What traffic problems? 8 a.m. and 5 p.m. traffic on major arteries is bad, but that's it. Eureka doesn't have a traffic problem, except maybe the need for a 101 bypass.

 
At 4:59 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

In any other place obeying the law by giving pedestrians the right of way is considered "normal". In Eureka, it's considered "nice".

Eurekans don't care about the law, only their own desires or say its OK because "I've been driving down that street for 30 years and never had to stop before. Its only those new people who are causing problems". Fred, why don't you complain to Rodoni or Dennis Mayo and see what they say?

 
At 5:45 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

It's funny Fred, the thing I notice is you're clearly overlooking the obvious problem, rude drivers that tailgate, then don't pay attention...

 
At 7:02 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Fred you are such a nasty little creep.

 
At 7:26 PM, Blogger Fred Mangels said...

1:59 wrote: "Fred, every once and a while you post something really irritating. This is one of thoes times".

Thanks, 1:59. But no need to thank me. I'm here to help.

 
At 11:33 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

The real problem seems to consist of people dressed in dark clothing who LOVE to run across 4th or 5th at night.

My friends and I joke that a night in Eureka is never complete without some lunatic jumping out in front of your car, dressed in black, and scampering across like a #*&$# dipsh*t.

 
At 9:35 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I would love to see a metamorphosis of our rudeness to pedestrians and an enlightening of same to be responsible as well.

In other areas-drivers are cited for not stopping if a pedestrian has one foot off the curb! Nice place to start would be a public information campaign. Then raise some revenues for street repaving with the tickets generated.

People peeling out use more pavement in more than one way-let them pay for it.

 
At 1:52 PM, Blogger Joel Mielke said...

The drivers who claim that pedestrians jump out in front of them probably claim that cars have backed into them when they rear-end some one.

Eureka drivers are terrible.

 
At 3:05 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

LOL
nice try carson park ranger. NEVER have done what you're accusing me of, but glad if it makes you feel better to believe it, go ahead. Obviously you need the esteem boost.

But, wow, what's with all the defensiveness? Some drivers are dumb indeed...I agree there's no shortage of THAT around here, ESPECIALLY in Humboldt County. But to assign NO blame to some of the flea-brained pedestrians around here, well, gee, that's stretching it a bit.

 
At 6:19 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Have you taken drivers ed? Pedestrians always have the right of way is the mantra.

 
At 6:29 PM, Blogger Fred Mangels said...

Yep. That's the law.

Nonetheless, as I've alluded to here, that might be a problem in and of itself, with some folks trying to be nice drivers.

They end up causing more problems than they're trying to solve.

 
At 2:36 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I used to have a job in a large city that involved
cleaning up after accidents. Not fun.

Probably did over 100. NOT ONE of those was caused by peds, or people driving too slow! (God-I love the morons who use THAT one!)

We found causes including:
Cell phones, boom cars, and eating.
But number one?
DRIVING TOO GODDAMN FAST!
for those of you that do, I'll say it again:
DRIVING TOO GODDAMN FAST!

WHY is that so hard to figure out?
Most of these jerks figured it out right after they killed someone- so they could get to the next light sooner.

Please- TEACH your children how drive properly BEFORE you give them a 300 HP car!

 
At 3:05 PM, Blogger Fred Mangels said...

Agreed. Speeders do often cause accidents. But, we had one pedestrian killed (last year?) on F street in Eureka. The driver that hit her had just stopped at a stop sign she walked out in front of him, apparently without looking, or not looking close enough (I still fail to see how someone could kill someone just starting up from a stop sign).

The driver wasn't charged.

And we had that one in the paper last week(?). A multiple car accident caused when the first driver stopped for a pedestrian and apparently surprised at least the guy behind her.

 
At 5:32 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Tailgating Fred, tailgating, not pedestrians.

 
At 1:19 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Jerry Droz suggested turning Broadway into a highway with exits to access businesses . There would be a frontage Rd. that you could drive along to bring you further down if you needed to access more businesses without disrupting the flow of traffic which is currently Highway 101 .

 
At 6:14 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey Fred , where's the article about Rich SomerPEST ( OK - Gadfly ) and his bias Newspaper ?
I can't find it . Can you please let me know ?

 

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