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..as it should be, according to the Sacramento Bee. YESSS! I was hoping opponents weren't just going to let it go.
posted by Fred Mangels @ 1:37 PM
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Let it go? No! We've just begun to fight.
Thanks for your support.
Tickled to hear it. Prop 8 can't stand.
Let's see if we understand this correctly. Firstly, the filing states: "...the initiative process was improperly used in an attempt to undo the state constitution's core commitment to equality for everyone." OK, does "everyone" include those immigrants from the middle east who wish to marry their goat? Or those whose religion allows them to engage in polygamy or polyandry?
Secondly, does anyone else find it odd that the same court that was overruled by a vote of the people will be ruling on the validity of that vote?
Just askin'.
I think Fred that people are getting woefully tired of the government deciding what we can and can't do in our homes.
This has no business on our ballot and no business in our constitution.
If we can't as a people embrace tolerance, how do you think an initiative or legislation can change anything?
We shall overcome . . . someday
A legal vote getting overturned? But but the WILL OF THE PEOPLE...
" ...immigrants from the middle east who wish to marry their goat..."
What a curious imagination Zorba the Greek has. I just hope that he doesn't own any goats.
Looks like the Parsin' Snark Deranged one has a minor case of the GDS (greek derangement syndrome). Maybe he could benefit from a C.R. course such as:
ENGL 1A Analytical Reading & Writing TTH 03:15pm-05:20pm L Manousos AD 107 4.0
Pop Culture Theme: Critically analyzes icons, advertisements, recreational activities, music, movies, and other
aspects of contemporary American culture that reflect and define [progressives].
We can take up a collection for his student fees. Pogo will chip in the "Change" left in his 401k after the Messiah raids it to "spread the wealth around". Any other takers?
Whoa, Pogo -- slow down. You're babbling.
LMAO just yesterday, seems a band of skinny old fellers in tu tus were prancing around with "Oh Woe Is Us" placards outside the local Mormon Temple....
Whining when you don't get your way, throwing a tantrum, rather than using the system, accepting a grascious defeat and moving on....
Ah, the measure of a man, no?
No.
As an aside there, Mr. Ranger, sir...the Saudisjust finished their National Goat Beauty contest. Look it up, and then wipe the egg from your face.
Oh....and his name is ΛΕΟΝΙΔΑΣ, not Zorba, and from knowing Him, he's four times the Man that you are Mr. Ranger.
Oops...Howdy Fred.
"Whining when you don't get your way, throwing a tantrum, rather than using the system, accepting a grascious defeat and moving on...."
I'd think that those opposed to Measure T passing here would disagree with you there.And this may come as a bit of a surprise to some who read this blog and others,but I don't really support going to the courts to remedy social inadequecies in our system.I do certainly view those who supported prop 8 as complete bigots,but to their "credit",they brought the issue in front of voters,and bigots outvoted us opposed.
But well,it is certainly true.....and good to an extent,that the courts exist to protect those in the minority.I sure wish this prop failed so we didn't ever get to this point.
Easy there Wollfie! The Ranger has not yet attended the CR class that Pogo recommended so let's help him out with THIS.
Poor Pogo grasps, but can produce a lick of wit. It appears though that he was sufficiently funny for Zorba. Howlsatthemoon is a proud ignoramus and bigot.
All three of you would have fit in well at a Sarah Palin rally.
Insult upon insult.
Is this how the founding father foresaw the future?
Don't sweat it 12:23 PM. Coming from the snark danger they are compliments:o)
There may be another legal challenge once the vote is certified. 18000 couples having married will probably remain married as there's nothing in the provision which makes the measure retroactive. If so, other gay couples who want to marry can sue on the basis of the equal protection clause in that there is no compelling state interest for the discrimination between those couples who married prior to the election and those who want to marry after.
mresquan makes a good point - the same people who are saying that the 'will of the people' with regards to Measure T should be defended in court are now saying that the 'will of the people' which was overturned by a couple of judges, and then reaffirmed by another 'will of the people' despite a convoluted and confusing initiative should be fought in court.
Let's have some consistency...
And, Geez, Joel, why do you have to attack λεονιδας every time he posts a comment? Why is his name always a topic of derision for you?
Honestly - doesn't anyone remember the 60s/70s - people were living together, living in SIN, because they DIDN'T WANT OR NEED THAT LITTLE PIECE OF PAPER. It was a point of pride.
What happened?
The way it looks to me right now - the yes on 8 ads were correct in one thing - "Whether you Like it or not!" this is going to be shoved down the public's throat. The attacks on the Mormons has already begun in earnest with the comment that "we are going to destroy Utah's brand."
Yeah, the activist hatred needs somewhere to focus now that Barack has been elected, and all the world's ills are still here.
You're all over the playing field, aren't you, Rose?
"The way it looks to me right now - the yes on 8 ads were correct in one thing - "Whether you Like it or not!" this is going to be shoved down the public's throat."
Yes, Rose, just the way interracial dating and marriage were "shoved down the public's throat." Do you regret that too? Are you sorry you didn't have a chance to vote that down?
Now go on back to six of one and half a dozen of the other.
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